I recently got rejected by my ‘Dream College’.

We will now call my dream college as ‘College X’.
The discussion present below has been taken from my Facebook account. Ken and I debate over the importance of going to an extremely good college to inner values which an applicant must have to make a difference in this world. While I support the importance of going to a good college he supports inner values which an applicant must have which are ultimately responsible for his/her success. I must warn you though we haven’t reached on a conclusion yet!!

Ken
‘yeah, do apply again but don’t let the system tell you that you need the brand names to make you what you can be. What about if it is you that makes the brand have something to stand up for!

Me
‘hmmm I thought about it and I don’t agree with you there. The system is generally right about a lot of things especially when it comes to colleges. It’s like Xians on one side and the other college students on the other side.’

Ken
‘Kofi Anan was one of the better known graduates but in the end it is not what (in the words of Kennedy) College X can do for you but what you can do for your College X. The graduates have without a doubt built companies worth many billions of dollars but the questions especially in a world post global warming, is what are the colleges producing as far as serving the world rather than mere search for ways and means of getting a larger slice if the pie? Any college can be good if the person has the right principles but no college can produce tomorrows heroes unless the applicant is having some inner value system that motivates him to see a bigger picture’

Me
‘Ah sir…..but don’t you see you have given an example of ‘exceptions’. And you have kind of supported my point of view. It is generally ‘what College X can do for you’ and not the other way round. The numbers of opportunities present in College X, to change the world, are far greater than they are in other colleges. I don’t think a student from let’s say a community college has that many opportunities.
As far as a ‘larger slice of pie’ is concerned you don’t expect someone who’s broke to look at the bigger picture? Everyone can see a bigger picture but one needs funds to actually make it a reality. And the billion dollar companies of grad students are providing employment so its kind of a happy ending right?’

Me
‘Well Suryansh, I can only say that I appreciate your clear thinking and your ability to argue logically.
I work in some of the schools with the very best facilities, most opportunities here in Dehradun and other place in India. Looking at results comparing with our school for the orphans and village children, I am amazed at how many more graduates we have who have gone on to effect their country or state for the better socially than those from the “good’ schools.

Look at Kiran Bedi and Abdul Kalam and their humble backgrounds for example. Oh but here we go getting into a logical interaction again. Would these greats been great independent of where they studied even Steve Job or Bill Gates for instance whop neither one even completed college forget about “the” college! By the way are you aware of where I have done my PhD?’

Me

Well I feel the same way Ken. Although I can think of a few excellent points to prove you wrong, I don’t think we’ll ever agree on colleges. However I do respect your point of view and won’t deny that it did force me to think but it did not change my thinking.
P.S:- I don’t know where you did your PhD from. An extremely refined search on the internet revealed you to be a ‘a tall, bright eyed Canadian’ but there was no mention of your PhD. :)

Ken

About the PhD, if truth be known, I never completed high school. I was already having a staff of 30 under me at the age of 18 and earning more than my father. At that point I was focused on being millionaire by the time I reached 32. School moved too slow and made me feel like I was being babysat rather than prepared for the world around. There are too many things now that I wish that I had studied but the system for me looked too focused on helping people to know that which they had no use for, rather than opening up the chance for exploration in the areas of our heart and searching. 3 idiots said some things that are on my heart.

End

There has never been a clash between work and college education in India. What with its huge population, emphasis on college education has been great. But the downturn of economy has changed the dynamics of education and work particularly in the U.S. The U.S. has been transformed from a manufacturing-based economy to an economy based on knowledge, and the importance of a college education today can be compared to that of a high school education forty years ago. It serves as the gateway to better options and more opportunity.

This drastic change of scenario has increased the pressure on students. Now we struggle to get into the best colleges we can and thus hope to change our lives.

But the question still remains…. Is going to a good college everything? Your thoughts……

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16 Responses to “A Good College Vs Inner Values”

  1. Interesting conversation!!!
    why do we even go to college!!! and what did we go to school for!!!!!!!!

  2. A very interesting and thought-provoking article. But then, conversations with Ken always are…
    Coming to the article, I am currently studying in one of the “premier” Indian B-Schools, a place hundreds will die to be in, lakhs try every year to get here. So, what is it – the college or something within me. I firmly believe it is combination of both. A good college name (mind you I did not say quality of education) can and does open doors for you. It does give you the initial platform to launch yourself and announce to the world that you have arrived. However, it only what lies within you that can carry you beyond that. All of us are capable of great things – some just plunge into it while most wait for a platform to start. Among those waiting, some get it, most don’t and just continue to be mediocre rather than trying to become the change-agents. Here again your inner values play an important part in deciding what kind of person you will be.
    To sum it all up, its a fine divide between the two – you can choose you priority among the two.

    • I read your comment twice and yes I agree with you to some extent. But I still think its all about college. HAHA…. well I can see a gap year ahead of me already.

      • I’d only like to say that my little experience shows that college only will not be able to do anything for you. It will just become an initial platform in the larger scheme of things. But then yes, if you have been to a top college, your minimum expectation itself will become way beyond the highest of a vast majority. If you are trying for a good college and waiting another year for it, do it by all means. Getting into a good college is a huge positive but don’t hinge your entire life around that one point. Life and you as an individual are way bigger than that one single point.

        • BTW, if its an MBA college that you were trying for, feel free to drop me an email. I will be able to help you a little bit for sure. Won’t be able to help you for an engineering college though.

  3. Suryansh your debate reminds me of the book i’ve been reading of late: “The Google Story”. In there i learnt that it was not really the college (Stanford in this case from which they dropped out!) that made them something; it was their will to do something for the betterment of society (and a wonderful idea to do so) that made Google inc. (Google search engine in particular) such a success that it is now a Silicon Valley giant!
    You will also be surprised to know that money was never their centre of attraction (because of which they faced many financial obstacles on the way to setting up the company!). It was the sheer desire to make internet searches better for the people that helped them attain such heights. So they clearly ruled out the idea of the “larger slice of pie” and still had their fair share!

    • “You will also be surprised to know that money was never their center of attraction….” I never stressed on the fact that the only reason I want to go to a good college is for money but it sure is an added bonus. As I said in the post….. a person who is broke cannot see the bigger picture. We see headlines like “Silicon giant donates millions for charity” and not “Poor person gave millions for charity.”

  4. Well, it was a really very intresting read.
    Did you read a book called “Revolutionary Wealth” by Alvin and Heidi Toffler? There is an excellent chance of you getting an answer about going to a ‘good college’.

    As regards me going to a college is a no,no & is soon becoming an outdated concept even though it still remains a major factor for getting a good job!

  5. LOL…..well I haven’t read the book yet but its on the top of my list now. I don’t think it has become an outdated concept….but yes the dynamics sure have changed but it has become all more important now.

  6. Some exceptional cases few exceptional names don’ change the reality for millions..
    inner values are definitely important but as a whole good colleges are the need.
    MIT students turn into big names all over the world , can you expect the same from those passed out from DIT.
    just knowing about the success of people like abdul kalam doesn’ reflect the stories of thousands of kalam lacking even proper earning just because of not getting a platform.

  7. Hmmmm I got your point. Thanks a lot but I tried for an engineering college. I am terribly confused between engineering and liberal arts right now. I hope I figure it out soon or if i take a gap year then I’ll know what to do.

  8. Oh…… well I posted the reply comment in Jade’s post.

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